"Fixed" Group 1 Jyhad Vampires Wish List I used LSJ's point system from the Create-A-Clan rules for DragonCon 2004. For reference: 2 capacity: 1 point 3 capacity: 2 points 4 capacity: 3 points 5 capacity: 5 points 6 capacity: 6 points 7 capacity: 8 points 8 capacity: 9 points 9 capacity: 11 points 10 capacity: 12 points 11 capacity: 14 points A vampire with 5 different Disciplines gets an additional 0.5 points to spend. A vampire with 6 (or more) Disciplines gets an additonal 1 point, that is, the fifth and sixth Disciplines cost a half point less each. Cost Ability Minimum Cap 1.5 +1 bleed 6 1.5 +1 strength 6 1 +1 intercept 6 2 +1 stealth 8 0.5 +1 stealth when hunting 5 0.5 +1 stealth on political actions 6 0.5 +1 stealth when equipping 2 0.5 +1 stealth when employing or recruiting (both) 2 "Fixed" Group 1 Jyhad Vampires Wish List All I did was change capacities, add some superior disciplines, and shuffle around Primogen titles a bit. Some specials were also changed. Too bad I'm just thinking of this as a thought experiment. While I would be very pleased if many vampires that make it into the 10th Anniversary Set are adjusted in some fashion, I know there's reluctance to do that, lest we confuse the player base. Too bad there are misprints already in circulation. I figure we could just treat the "wrong" versions as such even if they were designed in a different era. As I made these changes, I found 6-capacity (6 points) is very hard to work with, especially when you give them 1.5-point special abilities, or inherit old special abilities. Jeff Kuta jeff_kuta@hotmail.com Anvil Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: CEL POT dom pre tha Camarilla Primogen Bianca Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: CEL PRE pot Camarilla: +1 strength. Miranda Sanova Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: CEL PRE aus obf pot Camarilla Primogen: Brujah get -1 intercept when attempting to block Miranda. Tura Vaughn Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 8 Disciplines: CEL POT PRE dom Camarilla Primogen: +1 intercept Crusher Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 8 Disciplines: CEL POT PRE for Camarilla: Once each combat, Crusher may burn 1 blood to get one dodge. +1 strength. Appolonius Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: CEL FOR POT PRE Camarilla Primogen: Appolonius gets one optional press each combat. +1 bleed Don Cruez, The Idealist Clan: Brujah (group 1) Capacity: 10 Disciplines: CEL POT PRE ani dom pro Camarilla Brujah Justicar: Once each combat, Don Cruez may burn 1 blood to get one maneuver. +1 strength. Zack North Clan: Gangrel (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: ANI for pot pro Camarilla: +1 strength. Gunther, Beast Lord Clan: Gangrel (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: ANI FOR aus pro Camarilla: Gunther may burn 1 blood to untap at the end of your turn. Quinton McDonnell Clan: Gangrel (group 1) Capacity: 8 Disciplines: ANI FOR PRO cel Camarilla Primogen: +1 strength Angus the Unruled Clan: Gangrel (group 1) Capacity: 10 Disciplines: ANI FOR POT PRO cel Camarilla Gangrel Justicar: +1 strength. Basilia Clan: Gangrel (group 1) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: ANI FOR PRO obf pot Camarilla Primogen: Basilia's hand damage is aggravated. Dancin' Dana Clan: Malkavian (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: AUS cel obf Camarilla Primogen: +1 strength. Ozmo Clan: Malkavian (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: AUS dom obf Camarilla Primogen: +1 bleed. Mariel, Lady Thunder Clan: Malkavian (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: DOM OBF aus tha Camarilla: Before range is chosen, you may tap Mariel to end any combat that does not involve her. This inflicts 1 damage to each participating minion and retainer after combat. Dr. Jest Clan: Malkavian (group 1) Capacity: 8 Disciplines: DOM OBF aus for pre Camarilla Primogen: If Dr. Jest is untapped at the start of your turn, you may pick one card at random from your prey's hand and have your Prey discard it. Grendel the Worm-Eaten Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 5 Disciplines: OBF POT ani Camarilla: If Grendel is ready, you may look at the next card in your crypt. Tusk, The Talebearer Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: ANI OBF pot Camarilla: If Tusk is ready, you may look at the top card in your library. Chester DuBois Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: ANI OBF POT for Camarilla Primogen Sebastian Marley Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: ANI OBF aus pot Camarilla: +1 strength. Selma the Repugnant Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 8 Disciplines: ANI OBF POT for Camarilla Prince of Cleveland: Selma gets +1 intercept when attempting to block Nosferatu. Marty Lechtansi Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: DOM OBF POT ani for Camarilla Primogen: Marty gets one optional press each combat. Lucretia, Cess Queen Clan: Nosferatu (group 1) Capacity: 10 Disciplines: ANI OBF POT aus cel for Camarilla Primogen: Lucretia gets +1 stealth on each of her actions. Adrianne Clan: Toreador (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: aus cel pot pre Camarilla Primogen: +1 bleed Eliott Sinclair, Virtuoso Thespian Clan: Toreador (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: AUS CEL PRE Camarilla Primogen: +1 strength. Tatiana Romanov Clan: Toreador (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: AUS cel PRE Camarilla Prince of Houston: +1 bleed. Andreas, The Bard of Crete Clan: Toreador (group 1) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: AUS CEL PRE dom pro Camarilla Primogen: +1 intercept. Sabine Lafitte Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 5 Disciplines: AUS dom pot tha Camarilla: During your untap phase, you may move 1 blood from Sabine to any other controlled Tremere. Lydia Van Cuelen Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: aus dom pre tha Camarilla Primogen: +1 bleed. Astrid Thomas Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 7 Disciplines: AUS DOM THA pot Camarilla Primogen: If Astrid votes, any Tremere who choose to vote will vote with her. Cardano Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: AUS DOM FOR THA ani cel Camarilla Prince of Boston Lazarus Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 9 Disciplines: AUS DOM THA cel pot Camarilla Primogen: Lazarus may inflict 2R as a strike. Cassandra, Magus Prime Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 10 Disciplines: AUS DOM THA CEL pre Camarilla Primogen: If Cassandra is ready, your hand size is one card larger. +1 strength. Ulugh Beg, The Watcher Clan: Tremere (group 1) Capacity: 10 Disciplines: AUS DOM THA cel for pot Camarilla Tremere Justicar: If Ulugh is ready during your discard phase, you get an additional discard phase action. +1 bleed. Jazz Wentworth Clan: Ventrue (group 1) Capacity: 5 Disciplines: FOR PRE dom Camarilla: If the Edge is not controlled, Jazz may give you control of it as a +1 stealth action. Melissa Barton Clan: Ventrue (group 1) Capacity: 5 Disciplines: cel DOM for pre Camarilla: If a Methuselah burns the Edge for a vote, Melissa gains 1 blood. Heather Florent, The Opportunist Clan: Ventrue (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: FOR PRE dom Camarilla Primogen: If you gain blood from the Edge, you may move it to Heather (instead of putting it in your pool). Luccia Paciola Clan: Ventrue (group 1) Capacity: 6 Disciplines: DOM for pre Camarilla Primogen: +1 strength Democritus Clan: Ventrue (group 1) Capacity: 10 Disciplines: CEL DOM FOR PRE aus Camarilla Ventrue Justicar: If Democritus is ready, any Methuselah contesting a card with you burns 1 extra pool to avoid yielding that card. +1 bleed.